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KC, I wish you luck on your journey with all those cupcakes.

I updated my graph to show my starting weight when I first started McDougalling, 6 years ago. I have lost the same 20 pounds over and over again. I did it by eating treats like muffins and fake cheese, tofu burgers and rich desserts. Mostly McDougall-legal, but high fat. It doesn't work for me at all.

There are rules to follow with this WOE just like with everything else. I think I mentioned earlier on this thread that a word of two changed in a sentence skews the entire meaning of the sentence of Scripture, and a little here and there changed in this program also changes the outcome.

Do you pray that life will be easy and free of problems...or do you pray for strength to endure, to overcome and to be faithful to our Father?

'10 David said, "O LORD, God of Israel, your servant has heard definitely that Saul plans to come to Keilah and destroy the town on account of me. 11 Will the citizens of Keilah surrender me to him? Will Saul come down, as your servant has heard? O LORD, God of Israel, tell your servant." And the LORD said, "He will." 12 Again David asked, "Will the citizens of Keilah surrender me and my men to Saul?" And the LORD said, "They will." 13 So David and his men, about six hundred in number, left Keilah and kept moving from place to place. When Saul was told that David had escaped from Keilah, he did not go there. 14 David stayed in the desert strongholds and in the hills of the Desert of Ziph. Day after day Saul searched for him, but God did not give David into his hands. 15 While David was at Horesh in the Desert of Ziph, he learned that Saul had come out to take his life. 16 And Saul's son Jonathan went to David at Horesh and helped him find strength in God. 17 "Don't be afraid," he said. "My father Saul will not lay a hand on you. You will be king over Israel, and I will be second to you. Even my father Saul knows this." '(1 Samuel 23, NIV)

Dear Father, may we, like Jonathan, give our friends here the good words they need and help them find strength in You. Make us strong in You. Help us to be more like Jesus today. I ask this in the name of the strong One, the beloved Son. Amen.

He is my steadfast love and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer(Psalm 144)

This is my signature, on my email It reminds me that I am hiding myself in Him AND that He is my strength.

Pink, I love what you say above, about being "the worst." It wasn't until I came face to face with my utter uselessness, worthlessness, weakness, and "worst"ness, this past couple of years, that I was able to really know what the Lord has done. i still don't get it, but at least I have met the truth, and have taken that first step into freedom.

and this, after knowing Him for almost three decades!

Dear All,

buns- you know, I totally relate to needing to realized and remember that I am nothing and certainly not deserving of His saving grace. The minute I get too full of myself, off I go thinking I can do things on my own. Then I get off track and come running back to God. Thankfully He always loves me.

LuvOatmeal - I am making Mary carrot cake recipe. It has whole wheat flour, apple juice and apple sauce. There isn't any fat in the recipe at all. But to each his own. I read where you make oatmeal your dessert so I did the same. I put on 10 pds in a month and a half.
I have managed to put on the same ten pounds for 40 years. And so did the Isrealites in their own way.

I don't think anything is safe if it is a problem for that person. That is why, for today, Weight Watchers is working for me. For today, it is keeping me honest. I use the etools, track my MdDougall food, and quit eating when I have reached my pts for the day.

My blood sugar was 114 this morning. It has NEVER EVER been below the 120's. I just stared at the machine and smiled so big my face ached. Imagine what it will be like when I am at at normal weight! all this is possible because of eating McDougall, measuring and weighing my food, and writing it down.
Glory be to God!

http://www.happyhealthylonglife.com/

Hi friends,

Just a quick hello to everyone and I thought you might be interested in the above link - especially the Sept. 21st post about calorie restriction. Very interesting.

I'm so thankful for each of you and the encouragement and inspiration that you impart, and for your honesty in admitting weaknesses and struggles. Thank you!!!!

Thank you, Luvie! I posted it on Facebook for everyone there to ignore.

Ps. 68:28
Thy God hath commanded thy strength: strengthen, O God, that which thou hast wrought for us.

Blessings,
Jubilee

'1 David sang to the LORD the words of this song when the LORD delivered him from the hand of all his enemies and from the hand of Saul. 2 He said: "The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; 3 my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior-- from violent men you save me. 4 I call to the LORD, who is worthy of praise, and I am saved from my enemies. 5 "The waves of death swirled about me; the torrents of destruction overwhelmed me. 6 The cords of the grave coiled around me; the snares of death confronted me. 7 In my distress I called to the LORD; I called out to my God. From his temple he heard my voice; my cry came to his ears. 8 "The earth trembled and quaked, the foundations of the heavens shook; they trembled because he was angry. 9 Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it. 10 He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet. 11 He mounted the cherubim and flew; he soared on the wings of the wind. 12 He made darkness his canopy around him-- the dark rain clouds of the sky. 13 Out of the brightness of his presence bolts of lightning blazed forth. 14 The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded. 15 He shot arrows and scattered [the enemies], bolts of lightning and routed them. 16 The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare at the rebuke of the LORD, at the blast of breath from his nostrils. 17 "He reached down from on high and took hold of me; he drew me out of deep waters. 18 He rescued me from my powerful enemy, from my foes, who were too strong for me. 19 They confronted me in the day of my disaster, but the LORD was my support. 20 He brought me out into a spacious place; he rescued me because he delighted in me. 21 "The LORD has dealt with me according to my righteousness; according to the cleanness of my hands he has rewarded me. 22 For I have kept the ways of the LORD; I have not done evil by turning from my God. 23 All his laws are before me; I have not turned away from his decrees. 24 I have been blameless before him and have kept myself from sin. 25 The LORD has rewarded me according to my righteousness, according to my cleanness in his sight. 26 "To the faithful you show yourself faithful, to the blameless you show yourself blameless, 27 to the pure you show yourself pure, but to the crooked you show yourself shrewd. 28 You save the humble, but your eyes are on the haughty to bring them low. 29 You are my lamp, O LORD; the LORD turns my darkness into light. 30 With your help I can advance against a troop; with my God I can scale a wall. 31 "As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless. He is a shield for all who take refuge in him. 32 For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God? 33 It is God who arms me with strength and makes my way perfect. 34 He makes my feet like the feet of a deer; he enables me to stand on the heights. 35 He trains my hands for battle; my arms can bend a bow of bronze. 36 You give me your shield of victory; you stoop down to make me great. 37 You broaden the path beneath me, so that my ankles do not turn. 38 "I pursued my enemies and crushed them; I did not turn back till they were destroyed. 39 I crushed them completely, and they could not rise; they fell beneath my feet. 40 You armed me with strength for battle; you made my adversaries bow at my feet. 41 You made my enemies turn their backs in flight, and I destroyed my foes. 42 They cried for help, but there was no one to save them-- to the LORD, but he did not answer. 43 I beat them as fine as the dust of the earth; I pounded and trampled them like mud in the streets. 44 "You have delivered me from the attacks of my people; you have preserved me as the head of nations. People I did not know are subject to me, 45 and foreigners come cringing to me; as soon as they hear me, they obey me. 46 They all lose heart; they come trembling from their strongholds. 47 "The LORD lives! Praise be to my Rock! Exalted be God, the Rock, my Savior! 48 He is the God who avenges me, who puts the nations under me, 49 who sets me free from my enemies. You exalted me above my foes; from violent men you rescued me. 50 Therefore I will praise you, O LORD, among the nations; I will sing praises to your name. 51 He gives his king great victories; he shows unfailing kindness to his anointed, to David and his descendants forever."' (2 Samuel 22, NIV)

KC, I am only mentioning this because I see from other posts you've made here and on another forum that you are eating things that are not included in this program. It doesn't help you if you don't get feedback.

I want you to have the best health and the optimum results from your efforts. There is nothing wrong with using Weight Watchers for help and support, but I suspect you are eating several things that are not on the McDougall program and so could be seeing even better numbers on your glucose testing. Oils interfere with the action of insulin, making insulin resistance worse. Processed foods like tofu cream cheese contain fats and are full of chemicals.

I recommend you read one of Dr. McDougall's books, either the 12 day one or the Maximum Weight Loss one, and also get Jeff's DVD on making healthy choices. http://www.drmcdougall.com/store_should_i_eat_that.html
Jeff's DVD is particularly helpful. If you've already read those books, then read them again for a refresher. It always helps me to do this, I'm reading Dr. Esselstyn's book again right now for the umpteenth time.

I agree, Mrs. D.

Here is my quick assessment in regard to McDougalling and WW:

WW has a system that is based to a large extent on controlling portions. If one is truly McDougalling (eating according to the guidance found here, especially the MWL program) she/he would not need to limit portions.

My impression is that millions have lost tons if fat by following WW but that ultimately practicing portion control is not as effective as McDougalling and eating unlimited portions of veggies and unrefined starches. I would really like to know what percentage of WW people and McDoguallers have met their weight reduction goals and then have maintained the desired weight for five years. Without knowing this, I do know that I am not good with controlling portions and I am grateful for Dr. McDougall's approach. It works well for me!

Also, KC, if you do not want people here to give you feedback in regard to your non-McDougall choices, please do not tell us about them. If you want feedback, tell us what you are doing and we will give it to you!

Hello Friends,

Guess what? It was 113 degrees where I live today. Does anyone feel sorry for me? At least I'm doing very well food wise - lots of cold water to drink, salads and fruit. This heat really puts a damper on my appetite.

Thank you all for your posts and verses. They are great!

Here is my strength verse for the day:
"That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man," Eph. 3:16.

Lord, please help us to realize that you have already given us all that we need to live victoriously. Help us to yield and submit to your Word and be sensitive to the voice of your Holy Spirit when He speaks to us in that still, small voice. Help us to support those that are weak, to encourage those that are down, to love those that are unlovely. Help us to empty ourselves of "us" and to fill ourselves up daily with You, through Your Word and prayer. In Jesus' Name, Amen.

Hello Christian McDougallers,

I've been struggling since last Thursday. I would appreciate any prayers on my behalf. I really have a hard time getting back on track when I get off.

Thank you,
Jubilee

Praying, Jubilee. Yes, it seems to me that it is much easier to stay on track than it is to depart from the good way and then get back on it again. I think that is why some of the veterans here want to stay on the plan 100% of the time. I would like to do that too. Yesterday I knew we would go to a wedding in the evening. For those of you who have never been to an elaborate Chinese wedding, I will give you and idea of what is typically served:

appetizers: candy, peanuts, sunflower seeds
first course: meat dish
second course: meat dish
third course: meat dish
fourth course: sweet pastry/bread
fifth course: soup with meat
sixth course: veggies often with meat and oil

So I ate a good meal of veggies and rice and then we went to the wedding. At the wedding I ate some of the celery and carrots that seemed to have little or no oil on them. That was enough. After the wedding I felt good because I had stayed on track and my stomach was comfortable because I had not eaten the junk.

So, Jubilee, get back on track and stay on track!

Hello Friends,

Jubilee - I'm praying for you.

Here's a link to a song that I will be playing for an offertory in a couple of weeks. Enjoy:

http://deechurch.homestead.com/tomorrow.html

Hope this works!

Love to you all!

I would be happy to enjoy it and hope others here will but the officials on this side of the pond are apparently "protecting" us from this site.