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I don't know who it was on this board who mentioned the new DREAM Blends Almond, Cashew and Hazelnut milk. I wanted to thank you as I really enjoy the taste and consistency.

I tried to use the search to find the post, but to no avail.

Thank you for posting about this product !

http://www.tastethedream.com/products/p ... 99/814.php

Another self claimed "low fat" product that is actually 50% fat.

Are we quite sure about that?
Considering that cream isn't that high.

From the Nutrition Facts label in the link on the original post:Which is 50% fat by calories.

And according to cronometer.com, half-and-half cream is 77.5% fat by calories: Cream, fluid, half and half

Not trying to be awkward but how does it show that?
I don't know where to look on the chart for that.
Never used Cronometer before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream shows cream as up to 36%.

Edit to add: or up to 55% for clotted cream.

From the website:

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 1 cup, 8 fl oz (240mL)
Servings Per Container: 4

Amount Per Serving

Calories 70 Calories from Fat 25

% Daily Value*

Total Fat 2.5g 4%

Saturated Fat 0.5g 3%

Trans Fat 0g

Polyunsaturated Fat 0.5g

Monounsaturated Fat 1.5g

Cholesterol 0mg 0%

Sodium 115mg 5%

Total Carb. 12g 4%

Dietary Fiber 3g 12%

Sugars 8g

Protein <1g

Vitamin A 30% • Vitamin C 0%

Calcium 30% • Iron 4%

Vitamin D 25% • Vitamin E 40%

Vitamin B12 50%

* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

Oh boy, AnnaSpanna - I know lots of people make this same mistake, I did and probably everyone reading this post did at one time, and it's one that the food industry wants you to make. When dieticians, the doctors, the USDA, WHO and all other scientific organizations refer to the percentage of fat in food, they are referring to calories. DREAM Blends Almond, Cashew and Hazelnut milk has 50 calories per cup - 25 of those calories are from fat. Therefore, 50% of the calories are fat.

This calculation is not percentage of calorie - this is percentage by weight - it includes the weight of the water/liquid. There are 20 calories in a tbsp of half and half cream and 15 of those calories are fat making it 78% fat http://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutri ... f-and-half BTW, water isn't added - this is the naturally occurring water in the milk as expressed by the cow - it has no fat AND no calories but it does have weight.

It's a very deceptive method to make a food look healthier. Bottom line - we can't trust anything on the food label except the nutrition facts and ingredient list.

I highly recommend Jeff Novick's DVD "Should I Eat That" http://www.drmcdougall.com/store_should_i_eat_that.html You'll discover the tricks industry uses to fool us. He explains how Pam cooking spray which is 100% fat can claim to be fat free, and other magical distortions. Jeff is very entertaining, but the information is priceless.

dr. mcdougall does allow up to an ounce of nuts and seeds on this diet! those are 70% fat and 160 cal. they do provide us with other nutrients. a person who is healing from heart disease, has severe diabetes, etc might benefit from eliminating all overt fats for a period of time. but otherwise 50 cal from nuts and seeds wont harm a fairly healthy person! one should be more concerned over the non nut ingredients in this and all plant milks. it only takes 5 minutes to make a plant milk yourself! but this is why its LIMITED, not eliminated. not everyone needs to eliminate ever last gram of fat, etc.

I go by the charts the Dr. Ornish has for total fat & saturated fat in his book Dr. Dean Ornish's program for Reversing Heart Disease. And this milk is certainly okay to have with his program, as is skim milk.

His charts are for people with heart issues ( I do not have that problem, but figure it's a good goal to prevent such issues )

His chart for my ideal body weight give me a total fat intake of around 20 for the day and saturated fat of around 7.

I was hesitant to even post about the milk here as I knew someone would find something bad to say about it. However, I figure it was worth it to thank the person who originally posted about this non dairy milk as it works for me.

We are all on different paths so I hope we can be a bit more inclusive.

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Thank you, CBS.

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It is Calories 50 total fat 2.5 not 25.
If you have the sweetened it's 70 calories 2.5 fat

That is 4%

2.5 is a tiny part of the 20 or so (depends on male/femal and desired weight) total fat that even Dean Ornish allows on the REVERSAL diet if you have heart disease. This is not a high fat product.

http://www.tastethedream.com/products/p ... 99/814.php

I am not saying everyone here should drink it. For example, if you have serious health issues you may choose not to. However, if you are like me and are looking for a dairy free milk alternative, I think this one was very tasty.

I see from my google search that Dr. McDougall even has a page that lists various milk alternatives. The Dream Blends I posted has the around the same amount of fat. 2.5 as some on his low fat milk substitute list.

Low Fat Foods
http://www.drmcdougall.com/pack_milksubs.html

Richer Foods
http://www.drmcdougall.com/pack_rich_milk.html

Packaged Foods List on McDougall web site
http://www.drmcdougall.com/packaged.html

I believe you are confusing calories with grams.

The label says there are 25 calories from fat and it also says there are 2.5 grams of fat.

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I misunderstood the post. Sorry you are right.

However, 2.5 grams of fat is not too much according to Dr. Dean Ornish. And as I noted in my earlier post, it also is in the same range as the alternative milks that Dr. McDougall lists on this very web site.

Anyway, I didn't want to get into a big thing over this. I just wanted to thank the person who brought the product to my attention as it fits with my eating goals.

It is not half fat, but 50% of the calories are from fat - big difference there.
It is mostly water, so it only has 50 calories for a cup, 25 of which are from the fat in the nuts. Would it be low fat if they added HFCS and jacked the calories up to 500, so that the 25 calories now represented only being %5 from fat? Or as you put it: 5% fat.

Using that method to compute high or low fat, you would always choose the sweetened variety of products, because your perceived fat% would be better if the product had more calories from sugar of HFCS to bring the fat % down.

2.5 grams..... You get a lot more fat from cashew or almond cheese recipes posted here, than from putting a cup of this over your oatmeal......
I would be more concerned with the chemicals, and whether you were getting too many calories that were processed and seperated away from the natural fiber.

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